NDP MP Jenny Kwan (Vancouver East, B.C.) testified at the inquiry on Sept. 18, alongside Conservative MP Michael Chong (Wellington–Halton Hills, Ont.) and former Conservative leader Erin O’Toole. She told The Hill Times that regardless of party or position in Parliament, “the truth of the matter is we’re all exposed.”
Kwan said that all of her fellow witnesses that day also exemplified that threats to parliamentarians, their staff, and their families “could come in any way, in any form, and on any platform.”
Kwan said those threats could take the form of the malware attacks targeting members of IPAC, or more personal threats, including those aimed at Kwan or Chong and their families.
Last year, the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) informed Chong that he and his family were targets of the Chinese government over his 2021 motion condemning Beijing’s treatment of Uyghur Muslims as a genocide. That information was only shared with Chong in May 2023 after the federal government confirmed reporting by The Globe and Mail about a leaked CSIS report detailing Beijing’s efforts to intimidate him and his family.
The following August, Global Affairs said it believed Chong had also been the target of a foreign disinformation campaign, which it suspected was directed by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).
The heavily redacted report published on June 3 concluded that some elected officials—including a former MP connected with a foreign intelligence officer—are “semi-witting or witting” actors in foreign interference.
On June 10, the Bloc Québécois introduced a successful motion requesting that the terms of reference for the Hogue inquiry be further expanded to include the allegations raised in the NSICOP report.
The commission said it would work to “shed light on the facts” discussed in the NSICOP report. Still, Commissioner Marie-Josée Hogue has since said the inquiry would be unable to disclose the identities of the implicated parliamentarians.
However, Kwan said she firmly believes that more follow-up and accountability are needed to disperse the “cloud of suspicion” the report has cast over every parliamentarian.
“This undermines not just me as an MP, but the entire institution, and I think those who want to sow chaos and disrupt our democratic institutions want that,” Kwan said. “This cannot be allowed to continue.”
While her privilege question called for PROC to study the report, Kwan also said conducting that study in tandem with a parallel Senate committee would be beneficial.
“I believe that is a path forward to address this cloud of suspicion,” Kwan said. “I think in that process we can balance transparency, accountability, and due process.” On Sept. 23, House Speaker Greg Fergus (Hull-Aylmer, Que.) ruled that he did not find that Kwan’s intervention met the threshold of a violation of privilege.
On Sept. 23, House Speaker Greg Fergus (Hull-Aylmer, Que.) ruled that he did not find that Kwan’s intervention met the threshold of a violation of privilege.
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Earlier this week, current national security and intelligence adviser Nathalie Drouin said she had seen no evidence there are “traitors” in Parliament and that some of the conclusions in the NSICOP report made her “very uncomfortable.”
Mendicino said he believes there is a need to “clear the air” about NSICOP’s findings.
“I am very worried that the entire conversation around foreign interference and parliamentarians is being transformed into a kangaroo court with very little regard for the process of understanding how we assess intelligence,” he told the inquiry.
“I think it is extremely important that we heed the opinion and the evidence that has been given to this commission, from Ms. Drouin, from CSIS, around the fact that… this NSICOP report has gone further than where they are at in the assessment of the intelligence,” he added.
Under questioning by Sujit Choudhry, lawyer for NDP MP Jenny Kwan, Mendicino agreed that officials need to clear the air on foreign interference and parliamentarians.
"I am very worried that the entire conversation around foreign interference and parliamentarians is being transformed into a kangaroo court, with very little regard for the process of understanding how we assess intelligence, especially given its rapidly evolving nature," he said.
Sujit Choudhry, lawyer for NDP MP Jenny Kwan, asked why Astravas had asked for a briefing on Vanweenan lists in connection with that warrant when she would have seen similar lists attached to previous warrant applications handled by Blair's office.
"Did you recognize any of the names on that list?" asked Choudhry. "As you can appreciate, I can't discuss the contents of a Vanweenan list or a specific warrant in this forum and I have spoken with the commission about this," responded Astravas.
Despite Astravas being peppered with questions about the delay in arranging for Blair to be briefed and to sign the warrant, by the end of her testimony, it still wasn't clear why it took so long. Two other warrants that were applied for during that time period were signed with delays of only a few days and Blair had a number of secure conversations with the director of CSIS during that period.
Astravas revealed that Blair was aware of the foreign interference investigation that triggered the warrant before CSIS submitted the application.