HANSARD: Asking Member to unequivocally withdraw his comment as instructed

Debates of April 18th, 2024
House of Commons Hansard #302 of the 44th Parliament, 1st Session
Financial Statement of Minister of Finance
The Budget Government Orders

 

Heather McPherson Edmonton Strathcona, AB
NDP

Madam Speaker, this is one of the things that always amazes me. The member is from Alberta, as I am, and he will know that, right now, the wildfire season is already under way in Alberta. It started in February this year, which is unbelievable and unprecedented. We are hearing from farmers in southern Alberta who are selling their herds. They cannot to afford to feed them because of the multi-year drought that we are experiencing. However, when I hear a member from Alberta never wanting to talk about those issues, I think of my two children and the fact that I want them to live in my province. I want them to stay in Alberta and have good, forward-facing jobs, yet he has no plan for dealing with the climate crisis. There is no interest in even talking about the fact that farmers and Albertans are dealing with a climate emergency right now.

We are going to have climate refugees in Alberta this year when the forest fire season makes it impossible for people to breathe, and the Conservatives have no plan for that. I have no trust that if they were ever to make government that they would make any effort to protect our environment.

 

Jasraj Singh Hallan Calgary Forest Lawn, AB
Conservative

Madam Speaker, I wonder if that member, being in the government right now, could only do something about it. What she should be doing is—

 

The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Alexandra Mendes
Liberal

I think the hon. member for Calgary Forest Lawn knows better.

The hon. member Edmonton Strathcona.

 

Heather McPherson Edmonton Strathcona, AB
NDP

Madam Speaker, I would encourage the member to withdraw that comment, because he knows that it is not true and I would not want him to be accused of lying in the House.

 

The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Alexandra Mendes
Liberal

The hon. member for Calgary Forest Lawn knows that it is not true, and I would ask him to withdraw the comment please.

 

Jasraj Singh Hallan Calgary Forest Lawn, AB
Conservative

Madam Speaker, if only that member would stop propping up this corrupt, inept—

 

Jenny Kwan Vancouver East, BC
NDP

Madam Speaker, on a point of order, I would ask the member to withdraw unequivocally, as you instructed.

 

The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Alexandra Mendes
Liberal

Yes, can the hon. member, before changing the way he is introducing his remarks, please withdraw the comment to begin with?

 

Jasraj Singh Hallan Calgary Forest Lawn, AB
Conservative

Madam Speaker, just for clarification, can you tell me why I need to do that? I would just like to know.

 

The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Alexandra Mendes
Liberal

It is not factually true.

 

Jasraj Singh Hallan Calgary Forest Lawn, AB
Conservative

Madam Speaker, I withdraw that part of my statement unequivocally.

However, that member stands up here and continues to prop up the government, which has driven more Canadians into food banks than ever before, and then she has the gall to talk about farmers, when she completely supports almost putting our farmers into bankruptcy and not helping Bill C-234 pass in its original form so that we can bring down the cost of gas and groceries. The bill would help reduce costs for our hard-working farmers, yet they go on this attack on our farmers always and are okay with the cost of everything going up. They continue to prop up the government.

I think that member needs to stop protecting her leader's penchant for propping up the corrupt Prime Minister. It is time to get out of the way and go to a carbon tax election so that Canadians, and especially Albertans, can tell her and her government where they stand on the carbon tax. After the next carbon tax election, Canadians are going to scrap the Prime Minister and that NDP government.

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Outside this chamber, just yesterday, there were individuals shouting, questioning and jeering about who the traitors may be. Members of Parliament had to walk past these individuals on the members' way to the House to do their work. I believe we must find a way to disclose which MPs are knowingly, intentionally, wittingly or semi-wittingly engaging with foreign states or their proxies to undermine Canada's democratic processes and institutions. I believe this can be done in a way that does not compromise national security.

If there are no consequences for MPs who knowingly help foreign governments act against Canadian interests, we will continue to be an easy target. This will further erode the trust and faith Canadians have in our democratic processes. If allowed to continue, it will further impugn the integrity of the House. Revealing any member of Parliament, former or present, who is a willing participant in foreign interference activities would have the effect of deterring this kind of behaviour. Moreover, it would send a clear message to those foreign states that this cannot continue and that they will not be able to continue to use parliamentarians in this way. This will further reassure the public of the integrity of the House.

I strongly believe that the House should refer the matter to the procedure and House affairs committee. A possible way to deal with the issue would be for committee members to undergo the necessary security screening to examine the unredacted report and look into the allegations about parliamentarians who were “‘witting or semi-witting’ participants in the efforts of foreign states to interfere in our politics.” We could allow the named parliamentarians to be informed and to come before the committee as witnesses; we could then explore options on how to disclose the named parliamentarians without compromising national security or police investigations of the matter.

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